Not to mix politics with food (!), but here is a video with John Steward on The Daily Show with a monologue on eating pizza in NYC. Who decides what is good food or bad food? How do you define "authenticity"? Who decides what is "authentic"?
People have their own different opinions on what is good food and bad food. Different people have different preferences and what is good to others might not be good to some. I would define authentic as real. In terms of food, it would be the real thing. For example, if I said I ate authentic Mexican food then I would mean I ate the local dish in Mexico. Not anywhere else. You can have the same dish from a different place but it wouldn't be the same because of where the ingredients come from and how it grows. What is a regular tomato in Mexico might be a different tomato in California. Who decides what is authentic? I believe that lies in the locals. They are the ones that would know everything about their region: what to see, where to eat and what to do. -783713
Awesome video love John Stewart! But he's right. I'm from the West coast and if someone came to my town and wanted real mexican food I wouldn't take them to Taco Bell. And then eat my burrito with a fork. Represent your city well Donald. Food is a way we can impress one another from other areas and show them how wonderful my (or your) great city is. Round 1 goes to John.
It's true if someone asked me to bring them to get authentic food I'm not going to bring them to a fast food restaurant or some "knock off" version. Although every state thinks they have the best authentic version of the food item. Therefore you could go to california and get one version of a burito and then go to Rhode Island and get a completely different version but it is still called authentic. It just shows how our states are different but how they express themselves through food. 870612
i dont believe that there is a specific definition of "authentic food" but i think it is more of what authentic means to you. In my town peoples thought of authentic food may be McDonalds because they either eat that or Wendy's. But i think everyone's thoughts of authentic food is confused due to the differentiation of location.
On the subject of New York pizza, let’s be honest: it commands a certain reverence that very few other foods do in this entire country. You might classify it as a regional cuisine, but you might also visit Boring, Oregon and find a ‘New-York style’ pizzeria there, too. Not only New Yorkers love New York pizza. That being said, there is no one person who can really categorize a given food as good or bad; our preferences, fears, aversions and taboos determine this uniquely for each of us. We, the New Yorkers, think our pizza is the best; we may prefer it over, say, Chicago-style deep dish pizza.
On the subject of authenticity, I think any food can loosely be outlined by the four elements of cuisine: the main ingredients, intended flavor profiles and seasoning, how it should be prepared and how it should be eaten. If someone follows this for New York pizza, they might get an authentic end result. The area of authenticity gets tricky, however, when you consider people and place, and variations within the general elements of ‘pizza’ (as cuisine). As stated earlier, not just New Yorkers love New York pizza, and you may find people trying to make New York style pizza outside of New York. Is there something special about the water in New York that affects the pizza dough in a certain way? Which type of pizza sauce is exactly correct? Or is there a horizontal segmentation of sauces that would be deemed appropriate for authenticity purposes?
It seems only reasonable to say that authenticity can be defined as staying as true as possible to an original process or tradition with the understanding that place and people involved may influence the final product. Dare I say there exists: pizza terroir?
Sup, I completely agree with 843149, the idea behind authentic foods and how one preceives the composition of the dish differ based on opinion and the way the part of the meal are introduced to said person. As much as it doesnt matter, food is something that can be cross-cultured without losing any important traits becasue they are replaced by the ideals and workings of other ethnic groups. I mean it's cool that people are so excited to know things about food and how to eat and what makes an "authentic" dish authentic, but once again it's not important. Most people just need to shut up and eat. By the way, Pizza is not an open-face sandwich.
Of course i think NYC pizza is he best, I'm from New York, and its authentic to me, its comforting and i know what to expect. I know when i go to other places to get pizza, it just doesn't compare to anything i'v ever had in NY. But what does Authentic truly mean, personally its you own interoperation on something, what your used to, what you know best, which is why we have so many different foods and such. Its what you make of it.
I would agree with Drew, that the word authentic is very much up to interpretation. For instance, being partly Italian my family always throws around the word authentic when we eat our meals. However, most of the Italian food we eat is not truly authentic Italian. Also on the subject of pizza I will have to hold my home of New Haven, Ct in the highest regards of best pizza. Sorry New York.
Authenticity of food is strictly decided by the people from that area. Especially if you give it a name such as "New York" Style Pizza. This doesn't mean pizza from NYC is the only thing that should be called pizza, it just merely means if you call it New York Style you should be following their lead. I think its beneficial to the consumer as well. If I went to a pizzeria that claimed to be New York Style and I was served a deep dish pizza i would not be pleased. People like to know what to expect.
A food is deemed as "good" or "bad" based off of a personal preference, not including rotten or items that are not meant to be eaten such as plastic. Someone might like kimchi, someone may not but it doesnt mean its bad. I guess someone could say it is both good and bad at the same time, just like everything else. I define authenticity as a dish being made like a person had it made in their homes. A authentic meatball in my house is one with ground beef and pork but in someones elses it might be veal pork and beef or maybe even just beef. It depends on how a person was raised and what their parents made for them or what was available in the area. Again like how some people decide one this is good or bad they will say authentic or non authentic. It all depends on how their food was always prepared. DF790767
People have their own different opinions on what is good food and bad food. Different people have different preferences and what is good to others might not be good to some.
ReplyDeleteI would define authentic as real. In terms of food, it would be the real thing. For example, if I said I ate authentic Mexican food then I would mean I ate the local dish in Mexico. Not anywhere else. You can have the same dish from a different place but it wouldn't be the same because of where the ingredients come from and how it grows. What is a regular tomato in Mexico might be a different tomato in California.
Who decides what is authentic? I believe that lies in the locals. They are the ones that would know everything about their region: what to see, where to eat and what to do.
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Awesome video love John Stewart! But he's right. I'm from the West coast and if someone came to my town and wanted real mexican food I wouldn't take them to Taco Bell. And then eat my burrito with a fork. Represent your city well Donald. Food is a way we can impress one another from other areas and show them how wonderful my (or your) great city is. Round 1 goes to John.
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It's true if someone asked me to bring them to get authentic food I'm not going to bring them to a fast food restaurant or some "knock off" version. Although every state thinks they have the best authentic version of the food item. Therefore you could go to california and get one version of a burito and then go to Rhode Island and get a completely different version but it is still called authentic. It just shows how our states are different but how they express themselves through food.
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i dont believe that there is a specific definition of "authentic food" but i think it is more of what authentic means to you. In my town peoples thought of authentic food may be McDonalds because they either eat that or Wendy's. But i think everyone's thoughts of authentic food is confused due to the differentiation of location.
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On the subject of New York pizza, let’s be honest: it commands a certain reverence that very few other foods do in this entire country. You might classify it as a regional cuisine, but you might also visit Boring, Oregon and find a ‘New-York style’ pizzeria there, too. Not only New Yorkers love New York pizza. That being said, there is no one person who can really categorize a given food as good or bad; our preferences, fears, aversions and taboos determine this uniquely for each of us. We, the New Yorkers, think our pizza is the best; we may prefer it over, say, Chicago-style deep dish pizza.
ReplyDeleteOn the subject of authenticity, I think any food can loosely be outlined by the four elements of cuisine: the main ingredients, intended flavor profiles and seasoning, how it should be prepared and how it should be eaten. If someone follows this for New York pizza, they might get an authentic end result. The area of authenticity gets tricky, however, when you consider people and place, and variations within the general elements of ‘pizza’ (as cuisine). As stated earlier, not just New Yorkers love New York pizza, and you may find people trying to make New York style pizza outside of New York. Is there something special about the water in New York that affects the pizza dough in a certain way? Which type of pizza sauce is exactly correct? Or is there a horizontal segmentation of sauces that would be deemed appropriate for authenticity purposes?
It seems only reasonable to say that authenticity can be defined as staying as true as possible to an original process or tradition with the understanding that place and people involved may influence the final product. Dare I say there exists: pizza terroir?
I belive this to be true I belive that you can eat what ever you want as long as you keep it in order
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Sup,
ReplyDeleteI completely agree with 843149, the idea behind authentic foods and how one preceives the composition of the dish differ based on opinion and the way the part of the meal are introduced to said person.
As much as it doesnt matter, food is something that can be cross-cultured without losing any important traits becasue they are replaced by the ideals and workings of other ethnic groups.
I mean it's cool that people are so excited to know things about food and how to eat and what makes an "authentic" dish authentic, but once again it's not important. Most people just need to shut up and eat. By the way, Pizza is not an open-face sandwich.
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Of course i think NYC pizza is he best, I'm from New York, and its authentic to me, its comforting and i know what to expect. I know when i go to other places to get pizza, it just doesn't compare to anything i'v ever had in NY. But what does Authentic truly mean, personally its you own interoperation on something, what your used to, what you know best, which is why we have so many different foods and such. Its what you make of it.
ReplyDeleteI would agree with Drew, that the word authentic is very much up to interpretation. For instance, being partly Italian my family always throws around the word authentic when we eat our meals. However, most of the Italian food we eat is not truly authentic Italian. Also on the subject of pizza I will have to hold my home of New Haven, Ct in the highest regards of best pizza. Sorry New York.
ReplyDeleteAuthenticity of food is strictly decided by the people from that area. Especially if you give it a name such as "New York" Style Pizza. This doesn't mean pizza from NYC is the only thing that should be called pizza, it just merely means if you call it New York Style you should be following their lead. I think its beneficial to the consumer as well. If I went to a pizzeria that claimed to be New York Style and I was served a deep dish pizza i would not be pleased. People like to know what to expect.
ReplyDeleteA food is deemed as "good" or "bad" based off of a personal preference, not including rotten or items that are not meant to be eaten such as plastic. Someone might like kimchi, someone may not but it doesnt mean its bad. I guess someone could say it is both good and bad at the same time, just like everything else.
ReplyDeleteI define authenticity as a dish being made like a person had it made in their homes. A authentic meatball in my house is one with ground beef and pork but in someones elses it might be veal pork and beef or maybe even just beef. It depends on how a person was raised and what their parents made for them or what was available in the area.
Again like how some people decide one this is good or bad they will say authentic or non authentic. It all depends on how their food was always prepared.
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